Thursday, August 04, 2005

Fw: [peacemakersBiblestudy] Has Bush been born again?

The following exchange from peacemakers concerns Bush's spiritual state, and the state of those that seek to impeach him.  Thought it might be of more general interest.  In Christ, Carol Wolman
----- Original Message -----
From: John
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [peacemakersBiblestudy] Re: Peacemaker to do list

Bush has been born again??  He says he has, he may even believe he has, but has he?  But if he was born again, then his condition and his fate is even worse than if he hadn't. He has become a Judas even in a greater way than we thought (and we know what happened to Judas). If he has recieved the Holy Spirit by being born again, he has undoubtedly blasphemed against the Holy Spirit for which Jesus said, there is no forgiveness
 
Matt 12:32 "Anyone who speaks against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, neither in this age or in the age to come."
 
Will you people stop feeling sorry for Bush? How about feeling sorry for the thousands of lives he has destroyed and continues to destroy? How about believing the Bible, which shows that are some who will not be forgiven?  What's wrong with you people?
 
Proverbs says a lot about the situation with people like Mr Bush, here some examples:
 
Prov 18:5 "It is not good to be partial to the wicked or to deprive the innocent of justice.
Prov 19:9 "A false witness will not go unpunnished, and he who pours out lies will perish.
Prov 24:24,25 "Whoever says to the guilty "you are innocent" - peoples will curse him and nations denounce him. But it will go well with those who convict the guilty, and rich blessings will come upon them."
Prov 26:27 "A lying tounge hates those it hurts and a flattering mouth works ruin. 
Prov 28:2-5 "When a country is rebellious it has many rulers, but a man of understanding and knowledge maintains order. A ruler ("poor man" NIV footnote) who oppresses the poor, is like the driving rain that leaves no crop. Those who who forsake the law praise the wicked, but those who keep the law resist them. Evil men do not understand justice, but those who seek the Lord understand it fully."
Prov 28:11 "A rich man may be wise in his own eyes, but the poor man who has discernment sees through him."
Prov 28:20 "A faithful man will be richly blessed but one eager to get rich, will not go unpunished."
Prov 28:23 "He who rebukes a man will in the end gain more favour than he who has a flattering tounge.
Prov 28:28 "When the wicked rise to power people go into hiding; but when the wicked perish, the righteous thrive.
Prov 29:7 "The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern."
Prov 29:16 "When the wicked thrive, so does sin, but the righteous will see their downfall."
 
John
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: eyer3
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 2:23 AM
Subject: [peacemakersBiblestudy] Re: Peacemaker to do list

Preparing to receive Christ within...if every "born-again Christian"
did this on a daily basis, there would be a lot more peace in the
world...wouldn't there?
Having that "born again" experience is only the beginning...but too
many people stop there.
There is wonder-working Power--and Light--Christ Light--that begins
to flood your mind, heart, and body.  Light is mentioned so many
times in the New Testament we overlook it.  This spiritual Christ
Light is real...he didn't mean some kind of understanding, but Light!

But we have free will, always, we can crowd the Master right out. 
Remember the parable of the seed? 
This is what I believe we are discussing in reference to Bush.  He's
had a conversion experience.  Now he's "born again" and he can do
whatever he wants!  He thinks he IS trusting and obeying.
I ran into someone like that years ago.  He propositioned me, and
when I got on his case, he said, "wait, I've been born again...I can
save you right now!"
Incredible...yes Christ is within him, but so are a lot of other
things.  The Light grows dim......

The more you receive Him, REALLY, the more the Light grows within you,
until you no longer desire revenge, you no longer hate, you no longer
want to endlessly argue.  It's a journey, and none of us have "arrived."

Light, Life, & Love to all,
Mary



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